Comments on: Ark Linux 2005.2 & Arch Linux 0.7 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/ J_K9 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:05:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: hari http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-341 hari Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:38:35 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-341 Arch Linux is definitely not the "pick-up-and-play" distro. It is quite Slackware-like and in fact, I quite like it for its good package management (pacman) and the way it's so light on the system. Arch Linux is definitely not the “pick-up-and-play” distro. It is quite Slackware-like and in fact, I quite like it for its good package management (pacman) and the way it’s so light on the system.

]]> By: ray http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-343 ray Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:04:15 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-343 Interesting comparisons - especially for the new user. I tried Arch once, but couldn't get the hang of it: it didn't seem stripped down enough to be Slackware or polished enough to be anything else. So I went back to Slackware. Interesting comparisons - especially for the new user. I tried Arch once, but couldn’t get the hang of it: it didn’t seem stripped down enough to be Slackware or polished enough to be anything else. So I went back to Slackware.

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-345 J_K9 Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:09:08 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-345 Hari - Yes, I grasped that from my experience with it ;) I still have to give it another shot though - it probably didn't work too great within VMware Player, so I'm going to install it on a test machine (which I finally have access to) sometime soon. Ray - I have yet to give Slack, Gentoo and even Debian a go! The first because I haven't had time, the second because I'm under the impression that the installation can last up to two days, and the third because to have a package-complete Debian system I'd need to download 13 ISO's. lol... But I now understand that Ark and Arch are for two completely different audiences - Ark for newbies, Arch for the more advanced. It's about time I started dabbling in the latter anyway... ;) Hari - Yes, I grasped that from my experience with it ;) I still have to give it another shot though - it probably didn’t work too great within VMware Player, so I’m going to install it on a test machine (which I finally have access to) sometime soon.

Ray - I have yet to give Slack, Gentoo and even Debian a go! The first because I haven’t had time, the second because I’m under the impression that the installation can last up to two days, and the third because to have a package-complete Debian system I’d need to download 13 ISO’s. lol… But I now understand that Ark and Arch are for two completely different audiences - Ark for newbies, Arch for the more advanced. It’s about time I started dabbling in the latter anyway… ;)

]]> By: ray http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-347 ray Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:48:22 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-347 Slack takes less time than you would think - I can have a working system up and running in under an hour. The updates and installing KDE take the longest time, but I can have a fully up to date, wireless, tweaked system running in around 4 hours. Gentoo does take forever - I got fed up after waiting a day for Gentoo to load KDE. I'm just too impatient. However, that said, VidaLinux or the stage 3 install get you to a desktop pretty quickly. Debian doesn't necessarily need all 13 isos - all you need is disk one and a good net connection. This is why Linux is so good - 3 of the distros which traditionally are amongst the longest to install can now be done relatively quickly. If the "pure" version isn't for you, go to Distrowatch and they have a "family tree" where you can see which distros were 'begat' by which distros. Some of the "children" are faster than the originals to install. Slack takes less time than you would think - I can have a working system up and running in under an hour. The updates and installing KDE take the longest time, but I can have a fully up to date, wireless, tweaked system running in around 4 hours. Gentoo does take forever - I got fed up after waiting a day for Gentoo to load KDE. I’m just too impatient. However, that said, VidaLinux or the stage 3 install get you to a desktop pretty quickly. Debian doesn’t necessarily need all 13 isos - all you need is disk one and a good net connection.

This is why Linux is so good - 3 of the distros which traditionally are amongst the longest to install can now be done relatively quickly. If the “pure” version isn’t for you, go to Distrowatch and they have a “family tree” where you can see which distros were ‘begat’ by which distros. Some of the “children” are faster than the originals to install.

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-348 J_K9 Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:39:00 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-348 Really? Well, I'm gonna give Slack a try soon anyway. I still don't have the time for Gentoo, and I don't have fast enough broadband to do a Debian net install. <blockquote> This is why Linux is so good - 3 of the distros which traditionally are amongst the longest to install can now be done relatively quickly. If the “pure” version isn’t for you, go to Distrowatch and they have a “family tree” where you can see which distros were ‘begat’ by which distros. Some of the “children” are faster than the originals to install. </blockquote> Indeed - without Debian, where would Ubuntu be? ;) I'm going to give Zenwalk a try too, so I'll be able to compare my experiences with it and its parent... Really? Well, I’m gonna give Slack a try soon anyway. I still don’t have the time for Gentoo, and I don’t have fast enough broadband to do a Debian net install.

This is why Linux is so good - 3 of the distros which traditionally are amongst the longest to install can now be done relatively quickly. If the “pure” version isn’t for you, go to Distrowatch and they have a “family tree” where you can see which distros were ‘begat’ by which distros. Some of the “children” are faster than the originals to install.

Indeed - without Debian, where would Ubuntu be? ;) I’m going to give Zenwalk a try too, so I’ll be able to compare my experiences with it and its parent…

]]> By: ray http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-350 ray Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:26:41 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-350 I always saw Slack as the peak of my Linux life - one day I would be confident and knowledgeable enough to install and run it. And then I ran it, after grabbing some docs and doing some reading, and I thought "oh, was that it?" It really is a lot easier to install than you would expect and more fun to use. I always saw Slack as the peak of my Linux life - one day I would be confident and knowledgeable enough to install and run it. And then I ran it, after grabbing some docs and doing some reading, and I thought “oh, was that it?”

It really is a lot easier to install than you would expect and more fun to use.

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-351 J_K9 Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:33:12 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-351 Me too - I was hoping only to hit Slackware once I was as proficient in Linux as in Windows, and when I had learned at least one scripting language. Sadly, the first is still in progress (why did I ever start with M$?!), and the second - well, let's say it's in 'pause mode' ;) I've got both discs for Slack 10.2, so I'm going to try to install it tomorrow. I'll let you know what happens! Me too - I was hoping only to hit Slackware once I was as proficient in Linux as in Windows, and when I had learned at least one scripting language. Sadly, the first is still in progress (why did I ever start with M$?!), and the second - well, let’s say it’s in ‘pause mode’ ;)
I’ve got both discs for Slack 10.2, so I’m going to try to install it tomorrow. I’ll let you know what happens!

]]> By: hari http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-353 hari Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:39:31 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-353 Don't forget Debian either. ;) You can read my Slack-Debian comparisons on my blog under "Linux Related". Don’t forget Debian either. ;) You can read my Slack-Debian comparisons on my blog under “Linux Related”.

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-355 J_K9 Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:00:04 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/02/12/ark-linux-20052-arch-linux-07/#comment-355 Hari - I've read it! I just don't have a fast enough connection to download Debian - but I'll buy the CDs/DVDs when I do get the urge... ;) Hari - I’ve read it! I just don’t have a fast enough connection to download Debian - but I’ll buy the CDs/DVDs when I do get the urge… ;)

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