Comments on: Google AdSense - Statistical Errors? http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/ J_K9 Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:44:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: ray http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-479 ray Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:42:02 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-479 I think that this is a critical flaw in any model which relies on clicks. But, at the same time, I <em>believe</em> that Google's customers tend to be on top of this. If, suddenly, you go from receiving $20 a month to receiving $2000 a month, an alarm bell would ring somewhere. I believe Google recognise this, didn't they just have to settle a claim over something similar?, and either they or their customers keep an eye out for it. I think that this is a critical flaw in any model which relies on clicks. But, at the same time, I believe that Google’s customers tend to be on top of this. If, suddenly, you go from receiving $20 a month to receiving $2000 a month, an alarm bell would ring somewhere.

I believe Google recognise this, didn’t they just have to settle a claim over something similar?, and either they or their customers keep an eye out for it.

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-480 J_K9 Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:49:27 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-480 Most of them probably do know about it - but there must be some more foolish ones who have the money and not the brains, and will not care whether they spend 10 times as much one month as the previous - they might think it is just more clicks, because it is becoming more popular? It is, in some ways, quite easy to fall into this kind of trap.. I'm not sure if Google have had any trouble with this lately - although the reason I thought of this was because I was explaining to my dad about how Google's AdWords/AdSense functions, and the flaw just popped into my head. Either of the two may be on top of the issue, but if it were Google and not the customer, I feel that Google might just let it slip by. I'm not sure whether a full protocol handshake is needed or not to count as a 'click' on AdSense, but I'll try to find out. :) [offtopic] Going back to your short story post - which are the wittiest/funniest of the ones you posted? I'm going to need something entertaining for the flight ;) Most of them probably do know about it - but there must be some more foolish ones who have the money and not the brains, and will not care whether they spend 10 times as much one month as the previous - they might think it is just more clicks, because it is becoming more popular? It is, in some ways, quite easy to fall into this kind of trap..

I’m not sure if Google have had any trouble with this lately - although the reason I thought of this was because I was explaining to my dad about how Google’s AdWords/AdSense functions, and the flaw just popped into my head. Either of the two may be on top of the issue, but if it were Google and not the customer, I feel that Google might just let it slip by.

I’m not sure whether a full protocol handshake is needed or not to count as a ‘click’ on AdSense, but I’ll try to find out. :)

[offtopic] Going back to your short story post - which are the wittiest/funniest of the ones you posted? I’m going to need something entertaining for the flight ;)

]]> By: ray http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-481 ray Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:32:50 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-481 Well, if you haven't already read it, The Monkey's Paw is a great short horror story - it's been copied many times, but the original is always the best. I also kicked off reading the Sheckley shorts and Silverberg is always good. If you can get hold of any Philip K Dick stories, they are always to be recommended. Well, if you haven’t already read it, The Monkey’s Paw is a great short horror story - it’s been copied many times, but the original is always the best.

I also kicked off reading the Sheckley shorts and Silverberg is always good. If you can get hold of any Philip K Dick stories, they are always to be recommended.

]]> By: hari http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-483 hari Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:50:33 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-483 I remember reading "Monkey's Paw" sometime in the past. I don't remember the details though. Sounds interesting. Also going to the topic, Adsense is a pretty strange device for making money. Of course, google's policies ensure that nobody ever talks about it, but I can assure you that they do pay. I got the cheque in the past, although I did discontinue it. They did tell me though that I can register again any time I want to. I remember reading “Monkey’s Paw” sometime in the past. I don’t remember the details though. Sounds interesting.

Also going to the topic, Adsense is a pretty strange device for making money. Of course, google’s policies ensure that nobody ever talks about it, but I can assure you that they do pay. I got the cheque in the past, although I did discontinue it.

They did tell me though that I can register again any time I want to.

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-488 J_K9 Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:25:13 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-488 Thanks for the recommendations Ray - I've just got The Monkey's Paw, so will be reading that on the plane. The other authors don't seem to have books on the internet, so I'll look into them when I get the chance ;) Hari, I have never received a cheque, but I've been darn near it.. Why do you think it's strange? It seems to work - as long as you've got enough visitors! :D I'm literally about to ask about this, because I'm not sure if a confirmation handshake is needed to count as a click - and I'm eager to find out if it is or not, because if it is then it's a REAL issue. Thanks for the recommendations Ray - I’ve just got The Monkey’s Paw, so will be reading that on the plane. The other authors don’t seem to have books on the internet, so I’ll look into them when I get the chance ;)
Hari, I have never received a cheque, but I’ve been darn near it.. Why do you think it’s strange? It seems to work - as long as you’ve got enough visitors! :D
I’m literally about to ask about this, because I’m not sure if a confirmation handshake is needed to count as a click - and I’m eager to find out if it is or not, because if it is then it’s a REAL issue.

]]> By: hari http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-492 hari Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:43:53 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-492 I think it's strange because nobody ever clicks the ads... if you get a couple of clicks per day on a medium traffic website, that's quite good. Only on very high-traffic sites does it make sense to use adsense. I think you should actually email adsense support and ask them about the other issue you have in mind. They're quite responsive (reply within a few days) and confirm how it works. I don't think they'll reveal the inner workings, though. I think it’s strange because nobody ever clicks the ads… if you get a couple of clicks per day on a medium traffic website, that’s quite good. Only on very high-traffic sites does it make sense to use adsense.

I think you should actually email adsense support and ask them about the other issue you have in mind. They’re quite responsive (reply within a few days) and confirm how it works.

I don’t think they’ll reveal the inner workings, though.

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-494 J_K9 Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:56:07 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-494 But, on some high traffic sites it also looks out of place, so I guess it's just trying to achieve some kind of balance. I think I know how Google gets past the issue I brought up, but I'm not sure.. I might email them to ask them - it doesn't hurt, does it? ;) But, on some high traffic sites it also looks out of place, so I guess it’s just trying to achieve some kind of balance. I think I know how Google gets past the issue I brought up, but I’m not sure.. I might email them to ask them - it doesn’t hurt, does it? ;)

]]> By: hari http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-497 hari Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:01:04 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-497 You might have to sign an NDA! :P You might have to sign an NDA! :P

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-498 J_K9 Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:45:49 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-498 I could only wish they'd give me that much detail ;) I could only wish they’d give me that much detail ;)

]]> By: Duncan http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-520 Duncan Sun, 02 Apr 2006 01:32:54 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/03/19/google-adsense-statistical-errors/#comment-520 It's called click fraud, look it up It’s called click fraud, look it up

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