Comments on: My Slaxperience http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/ J_K9 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:05:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: ray http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-580 ray Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:26:58 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-580 Here's another bit of help: open a terminal, set your alsamixer settings and then exit alsamixer. Do <code>alsactl store</code> and that will hold the settings. Something LQ taught me a long time ago, but I only needed when in Slack. Oh, and you may need to mute the "headphone jack sense" and possibly the "line jack sense" in alsamixer or you won't be able to hear anything. Totally intuitive, isn't it :) For quite some time, I considered Slackware to be the "holy grail" of Linux - if i could install and use Slackware i would truly be a Linux user. Having used it for a while and seeing many experienced Linux users using Suse, Fedora, Mandriva, etc i realise that that was a bit misguided. But still, I can't go back to using the more gui driven distros. Now that my latest copy of Linux Format has the latest Gentoo on it and now i sort of know what I did wrong, I may retry it. I believe that the only way to get the ATi drivers to work is to do a kernel recompile or to install the 2.6.x kernel and recompile it. But I really can't be bothered to do it :) Here’s another bit of help:
open a terminal, set your alsamixer settings and then exit alsamixer. Do alsactl store and that will hold the settings. Something LQ taught me a long time ago, but I only needed when in Slack.

Oh, and you may need to mute the “headphone jack sense” and possibly the “line jack sense” in alsamixer or you won’t be able to hear anything. Totally intuitive, isn’t it :)
For quite some time, I considered Slackware to be the “holy grail” of Linux - if i could install and use Slackware i would truly be a Linux user. Having used it for a while and seeing many experienced Linux users using Suse, Fedora, Mandriva, etc i realise that that was a bit misguided. But still, I can’t go back to using the more gui driven distros.

Now that my latest copy of Linux Format has the latest Gentoo on it and now i sort of know what I did wrong, I may retry it.

I believe that the only way to get the ATi drivers to work is to do a kernel recompile or to install the 2.6.x kernel and recompile it. But I really can’t be bothered to do it :)

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-594 J_K9 Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:23:37 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-594 Thanks Ray! <blockquote>Totally intuitive, isn’t it :)</blockquote> Lol, if they had made it any clearer I would probably have been confused :S I like SUSE a lot, but there's something about Slackware which isn't like the other distros. I'm going to set up a Slackware webserver and a SUSE one and run some tests against them both.. Just out of curiosity. Is there a newer Gentoo than the one I tried? I gave 2006.0 a go IIRC. Can't buy Linux Format here, so I'll have to wait for about a week until I can get my next copy (when I return to the UK). I really think I should try to get the ATI driver working as well. But I can't be bothered to recompile a kernel either.. Maybe when I retry Gentoo I'll see if it works! After all, some LQ members DID reply to my Gentoo thread and I completely forgot about it because I installed another distro over it.. :eek: At least their posts taught me something :) Thanks for the help Ray - the more tips the better :P Thanks Ray!

Totally intuitive, isn’t it :)

Lol, if they had made it any clearer I would probably have been confused :S

I like SUSE a lot, but there’s something about Slackware which isn’t like the other distros. I’m going to set up a Slackware webserver and a SUSE one and run some tests against them both.. Just out of curiosity.

Is there a newer Gentoo than the one I tried? I gave 2006.0 a go IIRC. Can’t buy Linux Format here, so I’ll have to wait for about a week until I can get my next copy (when I return to the UK).

I really think I should try to get the ATI driver working as well. But I can’t be bothered to recompile a kernel either.. Maybe when I retry Gentoo I’ll see if it works! After all, some LQ members DID reply to my Gentoo thread and I completely forgot about it because I installed another distro over it.. :eek: At least their posts taught me something :)
Thanks for the help Ray - the more tips the better :P

]]> By: ray http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-599 ray Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:16:11 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-599 <blockquote>I like SUSE a lot, but there’s something about Slackware which isn’t like the other distros.</blockquote> I couldn't agree more. I think that after using Slackware (at least, this applies to me) it is really hard to go back to a distro that does so many things automatically. I feel somehow crippled by using even RPMs. This isn't, I hasten to add, a snobbery on my part, it's just that Slack works like me - nothing too automatic, slightly awkward, fun to know :) The ATi driver is a pain. I remember when I first installed the Nvidia driver on my first RH8 install, it went amazingly - there was one problem encountered and that was purely my fault. I didn't RTFM. The Gentoo I have is 2006.0. I tried the live cd install (a la Knoppix) and encountered problems. To be perfectly honest, the text/manual install went so much better and I understood much more about what I was doing every step of the way. I think that the Slack install has spoiled me for GUI installs :D

I like SUSE a lot, but there’s something about Slackware which isn’t like the other distros.

I couldn’t agree more. I think that after using Slackware (at least, this applies to me) it is really hard to go back to a distro that does so many things automatically. I feel somehow crippled by using even RPMs. This isn’t, I hasten to add, a snobbery on my part, it’s just that Slack works like me - nothing too automatic, slightly awkward, fun to know :)
The ATi driver is a pain. I remember when I first installed the Nvidia driver on my first RH8 install, it went amazingly - there was one problem encountered and that was purely my fault. I didn’t RTFM.

The Gentoo I have is 2006.0. I tried the live cd install (a la Knoppix) and encountered problems. To be perfectly honest, the text/manual install went so much better and I understood much more about what I was doing every step of the way.

I think that the Slack install has spoiled me for GUI installs :D

]]> By: J_K9 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-607 J_K9 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:10:18 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-607 Lol.. I don't really want to muck up my Slackware installation, but running at an odd resolution affects your eyes after a while! I might try to compile a 2.6 kernel and install the ATI driver, although I can really see myself screwing it up.. Ah well, if worst comes to worst, I'll reinstall Slackware. Hopefully I shouldn't have a problem - as long as I stick to TFM ;) If I give Gentoo another go, I know I won't be using the GUI install. The text mode installation is what Gentoo is famed for, after all! Ok, I won't be compiling each and every package separately - I'll be doing a Stage 3 install, but still.. Plus, the text based installation is good fun :D Lol.. I don’t really want to muck up my Slackware installation, but running at an odd resolution affects your eyes after a while! I might try to compile a 2.6 kernel and install the ATI driver, although I can really see myself screwing it up..

Ah well, if worst comes to worst, I’ll reinstall Slackware. Hopefully I shouldn’t have a problem - as long as I stick to TFM ;)
If I give Gentoo another go, I know I won’t be using the GUI install. The text mode installation is what Gentoo is famed for, after all! Ok, I won’t be compiling each and every package separately - I’ll be doing a Stage 3 install, but still.. Plus, the text based installation is good fun :D

]]> By: ray http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-611 ray Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:52:58 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-611 The best thing about the text install is that it really holds your hand throughout. All the options that they make available to you (you can stray from the path if you want to :)) are thoroughly explained. This is the strength of the install IMO. The GUI install just doesn't give you that. No other distro, AFAIK, does this - once it's up and running it is indistuingishable from anything similar, but the control over the install is pretty awesome. So, Slackware for a speedy install, Gentoo for a detailed install. The best thing about the text install is that it really holds your hand throughout. All the options that they make available to you (you can stray from the path if you want to :)) are thoroughly explained. This is the strength of the install IMO. The GUI install just doesn’t give you that.

No other distro, AFAIK, does this - once it’s up and running it is indistuingishable from anything similar, but the control over the install is pretty awesome.

So, Slackware for a speedy install, Gentoo for a detailed install.

]]> By: hari http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-890 hari Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:35:00 +0000 http://wolphination.com/linux/2006/04/12/my-slaxperience/#comment-890 I'm going to dump SUSE from my laptop. Too many quirks and issues... Maybe Slackware will be ideal for it, or maybe Debian. I would go with Debian if I had an installation media or I could get a DVD drive in my laptop. But I haven't got one yet. Slackware's initial configuration is always a painful procedure. It's all well and good manually editing config files, but it starts aching after a while. ;) However, once it get it up and running it pretty much works as you want. The other biggest problem I faced before with Slackware was having to recompile the kernel to include certain drivers for my hardware. It's always so. Slackware stock kernel is not as comprehensively configured and compiled as a Debian stock kernel. I'm still thinking whether to install Slackware on my laptop or wait till I get a DVD drive and install DesktopBSD or Debian. Either way, I think SUSE is on its way out with its problems of having only to configure with YaST or not at all... I’m going to dump SUSE from my laptop. Too many quirks and issues… Maybe Slackware will be ideal for it, or maybe Debian.

I would go with Debian if I had an installation media or I could get a DVD drive in my laptop. But I haven’t got one yet.

Slackware’s initial configuration is always a painful procedure. It’s all well and good manually editing config files, but it starts aching after a while. ;) However, once it get it up and running it pretty much works as you want. The other biggest problem I faced before with Slackware was having to recompile the kernel to include certain drivers for my hardware. It’s always so. Slackware stock kernel is not as comprehensively configured and compiled as a Debian stock kernel.

I’m still thinking whether to install Slackware on my laptop or wait till I get a DVD drive and install DesktopBSD or Debian. Either way, I think SUSE is on its way out with its problems of having only to configure with YaST or not at all…

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It is… That’s where LDC comes in! ;) I love Slackware, but Ubuntu is also very good. However, I now consider myself a Slacker for life :D

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